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#1 Mike Hersker

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 12:42 PM

If I have a Ranch on a Slab and lets be original, it has a Bedroom Sticking out in front of it  :D

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With a Small Gable on it.

 

If I select “Fit t Roof” in the wall definition - So the Elevation Looks Correct

- I’m going to get a stud count for studs that were to fit to that height or the Gable.

AND 

- Then I’m going to get a Gable Framing Stud and Gable Framing Plate Count?

 

So I believe if I want an accurate size and count of Ext Wall Studs 

(We don’t "Balloon Frame or Run Studs Up to Roof)

I need to NOT select “RAKE TOP - Fit to Roof”.

 

What is Gable Framing Stud and Gable Framing Plate? 

Would these basically be the "Balloon Framing"?

 

Please forgive me if this makes NO SENSE. .. 

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#2 Philip Frank

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 03:05 PM

you only get "Gable Framing Stud" and "Gable Framing Plate" if you choose "Gable End Provided by Roof" (in your Roof Mode when you "Edit Edge"). If the "Gable End Provided by Roof" is unchecked, you won't get the gable framing reported. If your roof is trussed and the gable end is a Gable Truss, you won't need any gable framing. Softlist recommends deleting the 2 lines in the report for the Gable Framing Studs and Gable Framing Plates..

 

If you are going to stick frame the gable end above the 8' high wall plate, then do not fit the 1st floor wall to the roof (balloon frame).Tthe Gable Framing Studs and Gable Framing Plates will give you an accurate count of the lumber needed to frame in the gable.

 

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#3 Mike Hersker

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 03:59 PM

Phil thanks !!

That makes sense !!

 

I know the tech guys know alot but your explanition is perfect! 

Tech said:

 

"All walls are drawn with a even top plate, it is up to the user to decide if they want

balloon framing by raking the wall top. 

Gable Framing Studs and Gable Framing Plates are extra material to frame a gable

end above a wall that is NOT raked.

See NOTES in the formula. "

 

But nothing in the NOTES SECTION . .and still had no clue.

 

I did see the comment to change display to "NO" if truss roof

 

The only issuse I see with the "FIT to Roof" is instead of total 9' PreCuts

- I get a count for "10',12' STUDS". and I guess some 2X4 'Gable Framing Plate"

 

Trying to figure out what goes where is the hardest or most time consuming.

25 min of searching for:

2 - 2X6X8' STUD

1 - 2X6X16' STUD

 

When I know I didnt draw one 2X6 wall on the plan drove me NUTS!! 

Had to have TECH tell me 3 HOURS LATER :

 

The 2x6 studs are generated from the garage door.

The garage door defaults with a 2x6 material for the garage Frame.

To eliminate these studs, modify the formula as shown in the attached image,

to exclude stud type 'buck'.

 

Crazy stuff!!



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Posted 03 December 2015 - 09:01 PM

I never knew that about the garage door frame.  I use 2x6 plumbing walls so I always have them but knowing that the garage gets hidden in there.  Need to adjust my formula.  Thanks


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#5 Jonathan Barto

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:49 AM

Here is what I do for that...

 

We use a gable truss in framing..  so your right don't need studs up to that point..

 

So I created a wall that has osb/vapor barrior/siding.......

 

Offset that wall up say 9'-0 5/8"  (depending on your first floor plate height)  Then take off clean up... then fit to roof..

 

This also allows you to put a window in there instead of drawing a vent and making it a window.  It will also reflect the window in the window schedule correctly.

 

 

I use the same wall for raised heel heights that are taller than then plate.  Because the truss say has a 3ft raised heel height..  well softplan leaves a gap there.  so I draw a 2ft osb/siding wall.  (make osb bearing). 

 

It makes the material counts accurate and looks correct in 3d as well...


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#6 Tom Rogers

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:52 PM

Good tip Jonathan


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