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#1 Tim Booth

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 01:14 PM

I see a check box for purlins on a roof but I have searched for a way to make them on walls.  Pole Barn for example.  The only way I have figured out to do it so far is to create a "plate" wall and use the move command to attach it to the outside of the 6x6 at the bottom.  I go into the copy menu and create 5-6 copies that randomly space away from the wall, give them offsets in 2' increments.   Then I go into 3D mode and use the move command to set them against the 6x6.  Now I don't see how I get softplan to attach siding to this, so there must be a better way.

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#2 Keith Almond

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 02:16 PM

Design the wall from scratch and make the actual definition suit the construction (so 2" x 6" horizontal and typically vertical siding). The only downside with that is that each definition has to be tailored to a specific height, as adjusting the height will not automatically stretch the relevant materials.


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#3 Derrik Bauer

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 03:23 PM

I created this wall for just this reason:

 

Same wall, any height you want.

 

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Here is a screenshot of the profile I created to get the purlins (nailers is what we call them) to show up:

 

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#4 Keith Almond

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 08:07 PM

Hadn't thought about a profile, but thinking about it, that solves all the issues. Brilliant idea Derrik.

 

EDIT: Hadn't realised that the Pole Barn Girts are a standard profile either ...


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#5 Steve and Carla Farnam

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 10:11 PM

Tim,

 

New training video on Softplan+ that walks through Pole Barn construction.

One section takes step by step the creation of pole barn wall definition.



#6 Keith Almond

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 06:42 AM

Had a look at the Pole barn video. That's the way I created mine, although not sure why the airspace was added. However, I prefer Derrik's profile solution. I must experiment with that.


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#7 Keith Almond

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 08:48 AM

Perfect .... Thanks Derrik. In my opinion works much easier than Softplan's solution for ease of construction and 3D, and variable heights work well too. However, I don't know how it affects the Softlist, but I don't use it ... I went with 2" x 6" girts.

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#8 Tim Booth

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 07:02 AM

I created this wall for just this reason:

 

Same wall, any height you want.

 

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Here is a screenshot of the profile I created to get the purlins (nailers is what we call them) to show up:

 

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I am working on learning to define walls, could you show what widths you made each item and did you change any of the default values above your 2nd screenshot?



#9 Derrik Bauer

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 03:42 PM

I honestly don't remember what was standard, and what I created.  I was thinking I created the 2x4 @16" OC profile, but I could be mistaken. Here is a screen shot of the widths of the wall:

 

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Does this help?

 



#10 randolph cohn

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 05:17 PM

finally got it to work.

 

I agree, it's in the "PROFILE" creation.

 

toughest wall I ever had to figure out.

and i'm good with defining walls.

 

btw,

couldn't of done it without  your help.

 

thanks to all for contributing.

 

hope I never have to design one for real.


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#11 John Atchley

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:42 AM

I can build the wall but cant figure out how to get the nailers/purlins to repeat 16oc

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:46 AM

And how would I add a vertical 1x2 furring strip that repeats 16oc. Working inside out the wall is meant to have sheathing, vertical 1x3, horizontal 2x3, vertical 1x6 siding, So that sheet of 3/4 in the previous image is meant to be 1x3 vertical. not a sheet of 3/4



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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:01 AM

OK. I got the 1x3 vertical added. Now just need the horizontals to show every 16 instead of just one at the bottom



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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:50 AM

Got it.

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#15 Keith Almond

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:54 AM

John, I think the key is getting the height of the furring wood correct. Since it has a profile it can be full height.

 

Mine  has a 2" x 10" at the bottom, 2" x 6" at 16" o.c. and a finish 2" x 6" at the top.

 

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EDIT: You replied whilst I was typing ...


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#16 John Atchley

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:13 AM

Yes. The problem was not making it full height. I looked at the previous postings and found it. Thx



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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:24 PM

It would be nice if we could change the roof purlins to a 2x4 like the wall I built.  This is how we do it here in N. Mich.  Note how you start your first two post for proper truss layout. 7'-9 1/2"  Then go to 8' o.c.Framing.jpg Attached File  Wall Detail.pdf   69.2KB   94 downloads

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