Thanks Keith, but I have done that over and over again and the dormer roof isn't there. The lollypops are hollow and I can't get them to change without lines going everywhere. This roof section is over the garage so I tried other places on the house and can't get the false dormer to work there either. This project has been a challenge from the start. The walls are ICF's with the floor system inside the perimeter.
Anyway its not the "false gable" feature because I can go another project with traditional construction and drop false dormers anywhere. I created a cross section , line by line, to show the owner the headroom. I wouldn't think it would be the ICF's, as a roof attaches to it.
I can finish line by line but didn't want to. It bugs me I haven't been able to stumble into a fix.
Thanks again for your response.