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#1 Dion Mulrooney

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:00 AM

Super new to softplan...

 

I made a knee wall all as one - Ive attached the make-up. I had trouble before when my knee wall consisted of two separate walls, one ontop the other..

 

but with this wall, when I place an opening in it, the opening takes the total width of the wall to fit into. so it ends up right ontop of the bottom half. and not IN the upper part of the wall..which makes sense, but thats not where i want it!

 

Ive came to visually fix it somewhat as you can see in the attached photos, but I had to remove the header, add a sill inside, and offset the frame..now my softlist wont have the proper amount of headers on it.

 

 

 

help! how can I move my window INTO the top half of my knee wall which out removing vital pieces! 

 

Thanks!

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#2 Keith Almond

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:21 AM

Since it has a floor over it, the header can actually be in the floor system you can raise the window head wherever you want it.


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#3 Dion Mulrooney

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:27 AM

Can I move it horizontally?


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#4 Keith Almond

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:32 AM

There's no apparent reason why you can't move it either horizontally or vertically to suit yourself.

 

Apologies ... You mean further in or out in the wall, not sideways don't you?

 

Try adjusting the FRAME OFFSET for the window and see where that gets you, but you may have some difficulties. It may still try and trim the entire wall thickness. Experiment with adjusting the window height well off  the lower wall section, and see how that displays. You may have to fake it a little. Although the small discrepancies in materials is almost irrelevant. NO framer will EVER use the same amount of materials that Softplan specifies except for luck. Some will use a little more and other may use a little less. That's where the wastage figures come into play. Some framers will waste more that others.


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#5 Dion Mulrooney

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:36 AM

by horizontal I should say..back and forth I guess. I need to push it INTO the wall. the openings frame is currently sitting ontop of the knee wall


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#6 Miles Millspaugh

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 11:05 AM

Edit the window> in "plan" tab check "frame offset" under opening dimensions.  Maybe start with a 6" offset and see what happens (it depends on wall thickness).



#7 Dion Mulrooney

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 11:08 AM

the frame offsets fine, but the header still sticks out of the wall.


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#8 Keith Almond

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 11:11 AM

The trouble is, you can get the window into the correct location, but it creates some really truly odd anomalies outside, that "I" can't get rid of.

 

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#9 Steve Haarmann

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 01:05 PM

Have not tried it but couldn't the "transition wall" definition take care of this problem?

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#10 Dion Mulrooney

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:15 AM

Have not tried it but couldn't the "transition wall" definition take care of this problem?

V2018 only.

Yes, that worked!

 

Thank you!!


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#11 Keith Almond

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:00 AM

I doesn't make a difference to the issues I noticed ... or at least it doesn't seem to.


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#12 Dion Mulrooney

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:37 AM

My headers are still in the way, but it fit in the wall better than what I had done.


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