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[Joseph Smith]

Issue will arise after each new release till its addressed.  10 years with no solution, amazing.

 

I'm no programmer but maybe a small batch routine that if it sees 1/32 or 1/64 on any of the project drawings it rounds it our preset automatically.

[Dennis Hilborn]

Too bad we don't have autolisp like Autocad.  10 minutes and it could be fixed.

[Joseph Smith]

exactly...couldn't remember that word, anyhow, ...had a good one back in the day that would move/rotate all at once for me.  Another useful one was move/scale to 1/8" (used for setting up 1/8" elevations on sheets quickly).

[Tom Rogers]

The difference is that AutoCad is 2D drawing and Softplan is a BIM system.  In 2D we could fudge it anyway we want (+/-, NTS, etc.)  With BIM it has to be drawn like it is built.  By the Pythagorean theorem, the length of the hypotenuse is the length of a leg times √2.  Not really a way to get away from this as long as you use a BIM software (Softplan, ChiefArchitect, Revit, etc.)  Best you can do if you dont want the fractions is 1) not dimension the diagonal and just note the walls angle OR dimension the angled wall and not the vertical and horizontal  

[Dennis Hilborn]

The difference is that AutoCad is 2D drawing and Softplan is a BIM system.  In 2D we could fudge it anyway we want (+/-, NTS, etc.)  With BIM it has to be drawn like it is built.  By the Pythagorean theorem, the length of the hypotenuse is the length of a leg times √2.  Not really a way to get away from this as long as you use a BIM software (Softplan, ChiefArchitect, Revit, etc.)  Best you can do if you dont want the fractions is 1) not dimension the diagonal and just note the walls angle OR dimension the angled wall and not the vertical and horizontal  

Autocad, Revit and Architectural Desktop drawings are just as accurate as Softplan drawings.  There are times when there will be a fraction and that is unavoidable.  What we are asking for it that the "displayed" text of fractions be rounded to the precision we pick.  We are not saying that the drawings should not be accurate.

 

I would like to have 1/2" and 1/4" available.  

 

These were drawn in Autocad.  The lines are exactly the same length.  Which one should be on the architectural drawing?

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[Tom Rogers]

Autocad, Revit and Architectural Desktop drawings are just as accurate as Softplan drawings.  There are times when there will be a fraction and that is unavoidable.  What we are asking for it that the "displayed" text of fractions be rounded to the precision we pick.  We are not saying that the drawings should not be accurate.

 

I would like to have 1/2" and 1/4" available.  

 

These were drawn in Autocad.  The lines are exactly the same length.  Which one should be on the architectural drawing?

 

The lines are not the same length - the dimensions that you just put in prove it. The dimensions have to be fudge to get the difference.   You are are talking about tolerance (again what human need to tell computers that it is not perfect).  I agree that on architectural drawings it should be 6'-6 1/2" 

 

If you are set it to be more or less precise in the tolerance you can set it down to 1/16" 

 

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Setting it to a different global tolerance that is a different story,that I agree there should be a setting.  

[Dennis Hilborn]

The lines are EXACTLY the same length.  They are EXACT copies.

[Sam Allen]

When I have angles and the exact dimension is a crazy number I delete the extension and use a line drawn in it 's place and round up or down to the nearest 1/2 inch for the dimension string.....

[Keith Almond]

I normally put a POINT on the corner and dimension to the points ... the DANGER of course is it you move anything and don't readjust it.

[Keith Almond]

... The dimensions have to be fudge to get the difference ...

 

No, they are not fudged ... they are just displaying to a different precision. They are still able to be adjusted, whereas if you do the same with Softplan, it will display 6'-6½" forever, regardless of whether the dimension is adjusted or not. The AutoCAD one won't.

[Brad Graber]

I don't think anyone is requesting that the program be any less accurate.   Just give us the opportunity to show the dimensions rounded down automatically to 1/4", 1/8" or 1/6th" precision..... while at the same time keeping the dimension dynamic.  When we move a dimension let it continue to update and show the appropriate rounded dimension.  

I suggest making it an option so those that want to continue to see 32nd dimensions on their drawings they can continue to do so.