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#1 Yvon Gonthier

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:34 AM

Anybody have any idea why if you click on a beam and "Info", the length doesn't match the actual length of the beam identified when you click edit? Not even sure what the length of the beam refers to under "Info"?

 

In the example attached, the beams length is 37'-5" (correct) but "Info" = 36'-10 12"

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#2 Keith Almond

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:47 AM

I have one at the moment that is 55'-5" that INFO is reporting as 54'-10½"

 

I also have one on the same plan that's 24' -7½" that reports as 24'-1"

 

Exactly the same differences (6½") as the one you have, so at least it's consistent.


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#3 Martin Wrobel

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:14 AM

Make sure the End Options are set to "Plumb"


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#4 Yvon Gonthier

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:17 AM

Make sure the End Options are set to "Plumb"

It changes the length under info but still doesn't match the right beam length



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:24 AM

I did some more checking and mine works fine.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:32 AM

I just checked a drawing & Mine is fine also.



#7 Keith Almond

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:24 PM

Mine were set on RAKE, but I've no idea why. I have NEVER knowingly set them to rake. However, setting them to PLUMB has made no difference at all.


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#8 Gary McKeon

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:50 PM

I think the RAKE setting is the default. Why? No idea.



#9 Keith Almond

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:24 PM

It does seem to be the default, but I don't remember it being so in the past. Does anyone know when this changed and WHY? Even steel beams seem to default to RAKE which is frankly a stupid default.

 

Perhaps it would be a good idea to set the default end option within the beam definition itself.


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#10 Paul Tacy

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:44 PM

Just a thought......  The actual length of the beam and the span are two different things.  If calculating the span, it is from bearing point to bearing point, regardless of the actual length of the member.  Perhaps the difference is provided to properly calculate in span tables? 

Why 6 1/2" is beyond me.  The bearing surface of a beam depends on what it is bearing on (wood, steel, concrete).

And raked or plumb shouldn't make any difference.

 

I'm sure there is someone out there better suited to take a stab at this than I.

 

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#11 Keith Almond

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:37 PM

My actual beam span is 9" less than the length, as I have 4½" bearing at each end of this particular beam. The 6½" difference is completely meaningless.


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#12 Yvon Gonthier

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 08:46 AM

Agreed



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:31 AM

I don't use Softlist currently but I am considering using it in the future. I think this needs to be addressed so the beam length would be accurately reflected both on the drawing and in Softlist.






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