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#1 Brad Graber

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 07:59 AM

I have a wall definition that shows the concrete cap correctly until I rake the wall and then the stone goes above the concrete cap.  

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#2 Henry Buckner

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 08:54 AM

Uncheck "Fixed"



#3 Brad Graber

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 09:02 AM

That was my first guess, but that didn't seem to make any difference



#4 Steve and Carla Farnam

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 09:39 AM

Brad, I set the vertical start on the concrete cap to 108" in your definition which placed the cap somewhat correctly

on the high end but below the stone on the left /lower end of the wall. I sent a support ticket

in and will report back.



#5 Brad Graber

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 08:11 AM

Thanks, that helped a little bit.  It appears the concrete cap is wanting to slope at a different angle then the top of the wall.  here is my new results.

 

 

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#6 Brad Graber

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 08:29 AM

It seems like shallower angles it is less pronounced and therefore not noticeable.



#7 Steve and Carla Farnam

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:26 AM

Brad, Response from tech support attached.

I ask that a ticket be created for the suggestion box for the

cap to be able to be added using a wall definition.

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#8 Henry Buckner

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:44 AM

How can you draw a solid cube at an angle?



#9 Steve and Carla Farnam

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:57 AM

Henry, I asked tech that same question and I am waiting for the response.

I would consider using a beam , adjusting the size and desired slope and

then edit the texture to concrete.



#10 Steve and Carla Farnam

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 12:55 PM

Brad try this, The end cap is a solid cube with a surface copy/paste

This will not have the solid concrete core if you were counting on the

material for softlist.

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#11 Henry Buckner

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 01:08 PM

I was hoping it was something new that we couldn't do before.

#12 Brad Graber

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 01:49 PM

Well that seems to work.  Even though it was concrete "a" and "b" there was still some internal conflict.  Same for the stone.  I made one stone "man made" and one stone "natural" and it was still giving me fits.  it wasn't until I used other materials that it acted ok.  I made one side a solid wood beam and one of them a log A.  Thanks for all your help... Hopefully softplan will work on fixing this one, it would be nice to not have to use so many different materials when sloping a wall.

 

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#13 Steve and Carla Farnam

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 03:13 PM

Brad in the last wall definition I posted there are only two different materials plus the cube.

The illustration is one I created using the wall definition.



#14 Brad Graber

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 06:29 AM

Thanks for all your help.

I was mainly trying to diagnose the problem for softplan so they can tackle the issue and hopefully bring a fix.  It appears to me that when you have two concrete materials or two stone materials in a single wall definition they will conflict with each other when the top of the wall is raked.  Even if you have one as concrete "a" and the other concrete "b"... or stone-man made and stone-natural.  When sloping the top of a wall they will slope at different angles.  It's not too noticeable at a shallower angle but becomes more pronounced at a steeper pitch.



#15 Brent Hyndman

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 08:17 AM

Thanks guys. The issue has been reported.



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:29 PM

Sort of similar question, how would i get the wall trim cap to go beyond the actual wall by about 1".  i have a feeling its not possible in the wall definition.

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#17 Jim Johnson

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 03:56 PM

Joseph,

I don't think it's possible in the wall definition but you can achieve what you want by using a railing (top rail only) and adjusting to fit.  Be sure to turn off cleanup.



#18 Yvon Gonthier

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 06:51 AM

I reported the same issue in the past. Hopefully 2020



#19 Brad Graber

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Posted 04 September 2020 - 12:37 PM

Just a bump on this issue.... I ran into the same thing again today.






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