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#1 Dave Pazyniak

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 10:16 AM

Good Morning,

 

What is the proper way to draw the attached roof?  My first attempt was to add the dormer on my main roof, but I had issues with the windows extending into the upper portion of the wall.  This works, with drawing the dormer walls separately, but my dormer wall is showing in the window glass.  Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the wall cutting into the window, or give me a better (probably correct) way to draw this condition?

 

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 10:33 AM

The upper dormer wall that you created to put the roof in is what you are seeing in the window.  That wall doesn't have an opening in it, so it is not cut out.

 

I would break the wall up so that the center taller portion is built as one wall the full height required.  Then draw small dormer walls going back into the roof.  You can likely keep the ones created when you used the dormer command.  



#3 Rick Kingsbury

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 10:33 AM

I would try a cross opening in the dormer.



#4 Mark Petri

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 10:42 AM

Or a custom arch or arch you don't use and turn off visibility of all the parts in the 3D materials menu for that particular arch.

 

Or, draw the walls as 3 full height walls on your plan but change the walls you don't want to see to hidden.

 

Or draw both sets of walls but turn off extract in 3D for the dormer walls you don't want to see and adjust height of the wall with the window so it fits the dormer roof.

 

There will be oddities with each that you have to work around. I find wall joins to be the biggest pain depending on how you do it. Not being sure if you have dormer walls extending down to the floor inside the home or not, it is hard to say what will work best (in my opinion anyway).

 

Lots of options, but you gotta figure out what works best for how you want to show things.


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#5 Joseph Smith

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 11:06 AM

Three things I usually do with roofs unless super simple:

 

1.  With roofs that go every which way I break it up into smaller roofs.

2.  I put my roofs on a higher drawing to keep the complexity away from the house itself...also easier to remove the drawing from the model to see the house.  (More control over hiding things i dont want shown in plan view.)

3.  If roofs really get nuts, sometimes use phantom walls to connect the roof lollypops to rather then having them connect to actual house walls.  (More control over hiding things i dont want shown in plan view.)

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#6 Kevin Rabenaldt

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:34 PM

Joseph, what do you mean you put "roofs on a higher drawing"?  Those are some great looking elevations by the way.



#7 Joseph Smith

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 02:45 PM

Kevin, sorry I meant to say a separate drawing in the model stack above the first or 2nd floor.  This is not necessary......just something i've always done.


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#8 Allen McDonnell

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 03:51 PM

I ALWAYS put roofs on a separate drawing.....just like Joseph said.

 

Basically, if drawing a ranch or bungalow you save the first floor as second floor and erase everything but your reference point.  overlay the first floor (in drawing mode for reference) and go to roof mode and enable multi-roof and go from there.


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#9 Kevin Rabenaldt

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 05:39 PM

I have never tried your technique of putting the roof on a separate drawing.  I assume your reference point is your bearing wall or beam?  Can you tell me the advantages of this technique versus constructing your roof on the upper most drawing and using multi roof?



#10 Jason Bishop

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 06:04 PM

Would love to see a tutorial on this technique.

#11 Jake Lulan

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 12:17 AM

Would love to see a tutorial on this technique.

I second this, Im not a big designer persay by I am constantly designing renovation roof attachements and think this topic would be super helpful!!






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