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#1 John Jones

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:38 AM

Round to Nearest option added to Edit of dynamic dimensions.

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#2 Joseph Smith

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Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:32 AM

Because of all the years of editing dimension text, I now find myself frequently checking my red dimensions for accuracy....ha...ha...


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#3 Elizabeth Bourne

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Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:06 PM

I don't see how editing singular dimensions are supposed to help us, draftsmen. Most of us don't have the time to go and change all the dimensions that have 1/32" displayed, let alone to recheck the dimensions to make sure they are correct. I understand that SoftPlan is proud of its precision, but the software isn't for their pride, pretty sure it's for the draftsmen, architects, contractors, etc, using the program. Absolutely no-one uses that level of precision out in the field. I believe it would be very beneficial for the company to set their pride aside and add a system option to change the level of accuracy. SoftPlan is still a very good program, but in order to improve, one of these days you'll have to accept the constructive criticism that your customers give you. Or your costumers will move on to find another program that does know how to accept constructive criticism and willing to make those changes. Ignoring the issues that your costumers bring to your intention will not help improve on what you've already created, it only shows intolerance and that you value your pride more than your customers.  


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Posted 01 July 2020 - 01:13 PM

WOW! 

 

I could say more but I will stick to WOW!  ;)


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#5 Henry Buckner

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Posted 01 July 2020 - 02:35 PM

Dimensioning the drawing is part of making the drawing. It doesn't seem like an imposition to me.


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Posted 01 July 2020 - 03:10 PM

I have a lot to say.  So ill keep it nice.  WOW.


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#7 Rannie Kean

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 01:14 PM

If you don't take the time to check your dimensions after you have completely finished your drawings you are asking for trouble. It is far better to do so than trying to correct some missed dimension(s) in the field. I worked for an architect who said he'd rather catch any errors on paper than in the field. One string can and will follow you all the way through the project.

I don't see how editing singular dimensions are supposed to help us, draftsmen. Most of us don't have the time to go and change all the dimensions that have 1/32" displayed, let alone to recheck the dimensions to make sure they are correct. I understand that SoftPlan is proud of its precision, but the software isn't for their pride, pretty sure it's for the draftsmen, architects, contractors, etc, using the program. Absolutely no-one uses that level of precision out in the field. I believe it would be very beneficial for the company to set their pride aside and add a system option to change the level of accuracy. SoftPlan is still a very good program, but in order to improve, one of these days you'll have to accept the constructive criticism that your customers give you. Or your costumers will move on to find another program that does know how to accept constructive criticism and willing to make those changes. Ignoring the issues that your costumers bring to your intention will not help improve on what you've already created, it only shows intolerance and that you value your pride more than your customers.  


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#8 Dennis Asher

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 05:12 PM

If you are getting the 1/32" measurements on square walls it is probably a result of a block move with the cursor completely unlocked.  If you do that the drawing can get off the "grid" resulting in the 1/32" measurements.  The only time I ever have a 1/32" measurement is on an angled wall so it's not usually a big deal just to overide that measurement.


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#9 Dennis Hilborn

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 06:25 PM

If you are getting the 1/32" measurements on square walls it is probably a result of a block move with the cursor completely unlocked.  If you do that the drawing can get off the "grid" resulting in the 1/32" measurements.  The only time I ever have a 1/32" measurement is on an angled wall so it's not usually a big deal just to overide that measurement.

That sounds logical but at least in my case it's not completely true.  There are many times when I move a wall say 10' and it will move 10' and some arbitrary fraction.  Yes, I know it is because I have snap on and it picked up something else to line up on. But. if I enter a definite dimension the there should be nothing on heaven or hell the changes that.  It's like the software says "well 10' is ok but I like lining up with that sheet of house wrap that is 10'-1/8" away. This kind of **** is unacceptable and why I've gone back to an Autocad knockoff to draw floor plans and sometimes use SP to draw elevations since they do that pretty well.



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 10:42 PM

That sounds logical but at least in my case it's not completely true.  There are many times when I move a wall say 10' and it will move 10' and some arbitrary fraction.  Yes, I know it is because I have snap on and it picked up something else to line up on. But. if I enter a definite dimension the there should be nothing on heaven or hell the changes that.  It's like the software says "well 10' is ok but I like lining up with that sheet of house wrap that is 10'-1/8" away. This kind of **** is unacceptable and why I've gone back to an Autocad knockoff to draw floor plans and sometimes use SP to draw elevations since they do that pretty well.

You are exactly right about the snap picking up something and overriding your dimension input.  If I'm moving something a specific distance I always use block move.  It seems block move doesn't recognize the snap function.



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Posted 03 July 2020 - 06:19 AM

I like the dimension rounding, angled walls won't let you get away from those small fractions.


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Posted 06 July 2020 - 06:52 AM

Personally, I would never set it to round to the nearest 1" at a system level. 

 

If you're dimensioning and rounding to the nearest inch, and all of your walls are 1/4" off but your dimensions are rounding  you'll think they're all fine but when you get to the other end, you could be 1' or more off.... 1/4" doesn't sound like much but over 70-80' of house, it can add up. 

 

I would set it no larger than 1/4" rounding. Again, just my personal thoughts and preferences. 



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Posted 09 July 2020 - 02:44 PM

Wow indeed !

 

Elizabeth Bourne you are being a little - no - a lot harsh.

Softplan listens very well to its customers which accounts for its continued success after so many years.

 

If you have your system options and wall definitions set correctly you should rarely get 1/32" much less 1/16" or 1/8" dimensions.

Angled walls will always give you odd dimensions at wall intersections and the rounding function(with repeat edit) resolves those quickly and efficiently.

The only other instance that I can think of is if walls are adjusted in length and snap is turned on causing the wall to go off on a hard to see angle.



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Posted 29 August 2020 - 05:17 PM

Not harsh at all. Give a set of plans to a framer with fractions smaller than 1/4" and cover your ears. 



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Posted 29 August 2020 - 07:08 PM

50 year framer here, All I can say is " As the world turns"!  LOL



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Posted 31 August 2020 - 02:23 PM

My first house as a builder and designer, I had a lot of fractions.  The foundation guy took me aside and said, "we don't do fractions".  Thankfully he said it with a slight smile.  I never forgot.


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Posted 31 August 2020 - 02:27 PM

My first house as a builder and designer, I had a lot of fractions.  The foundation guy took me aside and said, "we don't do fractions".  Thankfully he said it with a slight smile.  I never forgot.

 

And I am happy if the foundation guy just gets the foundation on the right lot...


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Posted 31 August 2020 - 03:35 PM

My first house as a builder and designer, I had a lot of fractions.  The foundation guy took me aside and said, "we don't do fractions".  Thankfully he said it with a slight smile.  I never forgot.

It's nice when someone knows how to give a criticism to teach.  Some people just use it as an opportunity to belittle someone and end up making and ass of themselves.


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 08:40 AM

My .02 cents... This new rounding feature is much better then where we were one versiona ago.  At leas the rounding stays dynamic and changes as walls move.  If it could be controlled at the system or drawing level I would use that... say maybe it could turn red and round into 1/8's or 1/4's automatically?  But give us the option to go that route if we choose.  Folks can work in 32nd's if they chose, and others can have it automatically round down to an increment of their choice.  That should be the best of all worlds.

 

Now for another issue is the extension lines coming off of the 45 degree corner and dimensioning thin air.  I had to answer that question with a foundation guy the other day, he couldn't get it to close and come to find out the extension line had jumped off of a 45 degree corner and was showing incorrectly.


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 10:07 AM

I often have extension lines jump to odd locations when adjusting steps in foundations, or other items that are not simple rectangle drawings. Even moving a wall off a corner and then back can produce some odd behavior.


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