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#1 Dave Pazyniak

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 07:11 AM

Just finished my most involved rendering, with quite a bit of nit picky details, and my first time providing structural drawings with the set.  Got everything to look as we wanted, but some things were a bit difficult and I wonder if there is a better way...

 

1. We put false columns on the corners of a sunroom.  I placed a full column on the corner and positioned it to cover the corner of the wall.  This works for the rendering, but for the plan I needed hide the columns since they were too far off the corner, and show them with linework.  I turned off the corner boards, which helped, but the wall has a stone water table.  I guess ideally there would be a way to turn off the exterior wall finish for the last few inches of wall?  And I still don't want the interior corner of the column showing in the sunroom on the plan.  Is there a better way?

2. Do I need to copy my first floor framing onto my crawl space plan to show a first floor framing plan with my crawl space walls, piers, and beams on the lower level?

3. I used wide corner boards and banding to "picture frame" the gaps between the bay windows.  It took quite a bit of adjusting to get the look right.  Is there a faster way?

4. How do you draw a roof on a "L" shaped building when you want a gable ridge running across the long bod of the house, and another gable over the short section towards the back?  I have to draw one roof over the main body, then another over the short leg.  That works OK, but from there I always struggle with gable frieze boards, gable vents or windows, hip returns, and sometimes jus getting the wall to show correctly if I have a smaller roof under the gable end.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

Thanks for any tips or suggestions.  pics attached for reference.

 

Dave

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#2 Allen McDonnell

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 11:18 AM

Great work.  That would render beautifully in Lumion,


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#3 Mark Petri

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 01:57 PM

David,

 

Looks nice. You can use false gables for the intersecting roof sections where you want gables, while maintaining the main roof as a hip. Sometimes it works better to use beams and walls with 3D extraction turned off to get gables to show the way you want. It can work better to use the method some use of actually drawing the roof on a separate drawing from the floor plans and using "multiple floor roof". Then adjust the bubbles/lollipops out to beams or walls away from the plan that represent where those gables are. Joseph Smith recently posted how he does it.

 

You can use solid 3D polygons for the wider corner boards and adjust heights and width a little easier, while not worrying about the way they clean up. Also, you could use solid cubes in place of banding. Or, draw profiles in 3D. I typically put 3D trim parts drawn with solid shapes on a separate layer (Render layer) for control of where I see it in the drawings. It also allows the option of locking it, so it doesn't get messed up while working on other things.

 

You could make and use a corner column for the column that caps the outside wall corner. You could also do as you have and represent the column corners in plan with a shaded polygon of the column shape that would cover the projection of the stone water table.

 

Cutting up segments of walls to show certain parts along a facade typically results in lots of extra lines and wall join issues. Sometimes I find it easier to use a base wall definition then a separate stone/cap wall with join settings set to smaller tolerances so I can control where the stone is along a facade.


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#4 Dave Pazyniak

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 05:34 AM

Thank you, Mark.  A lot of great options that I will try!






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