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#1 Dennis Hilborn

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Posted 28 August 2019 - 08:05 AM

I really like being able to annotate the live elevations.  It allows putting more information on them in a preliminary stage and not have to edit the drawing after every edit.

BUT...

The programmers stopped too soon.  If you use these live elevations in your plan set you CAN NOT export to dwg with out first converting them to line work and setting them up on a plan sheet.  Engineers that ask for a cad file WILL NOT accept them otherwise.

Please fix this problem with live elevations.


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#2 Keith Almond

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Posted 28 August 2019 - 02:43 PM

THEN YOUR Engineers, are really too demanding - when drawings were done by hand they still managed. Our Engineers are happy to have PDF's, as it saves them time. So they get paid the same for less work.

 

If our Engineers DEMANDED DWG files or weren't happy with what they get, then we would use other Engineers. We're not going to spend time doing work WE'RE NOT getting paid for, so they can spend less time and still get paid.

 

The big problem with sending DWG files, is if the Engineers adjust/alter something, and you're not aware of it. It's an accident waiting to happen.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 05:51 AM

I wholeheartedly agree!



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Posted 29 August 2019 - 07:26 AM

From someone who progressed from 15 years of hand drawn plans and ten years of 2D Autocad before adopting Softplan, I am amazed at what is expected from it as a (very reasonably priced) architectural software package. While it is great to see new innovations and improvements, large and small, on a regular basis I have no expectation of a day when there will only be four buttons to press - 1) design house, 2) detail house, 3) produce perfect rendering and 4) produce all construction documents. Our chosen profession will always involve a lot of detailed, nit-picky and repetitive work.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:34 AM

"Four Buttons to press"???

 

Why not just a start button and the program will automatically input the latest building codes, structural engineering, construction costs and cost saving ideas, customer selections, options and fantasies, latest fads and trends, along with a dispute resolution module to allow for the husband's input into the perfect project?


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#6 Dave Pazyniak

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 11:39 AM

When the engineer is referring the project, I do the extra work the engineer requests (after including the additional fee in my proposal).  I typically add a page to the plan set of linework elevations for the engineer, and do not print that page as part of my con doc set.



#7 Brian Berzinskis

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 12:05 PM

While I agree that engineers should be able to work with PDF files and not just CAD drawings, I do with that the live annotated elevation drawings were more like line drawings instead of like a flat rendering. I still draw 2d line elevations because I think that they are easier and quicker to customize and look better on my construction document set than the rendered views. But that is personal preference of time management on my part.



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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:17 PM

While I agree that engineers should be able to work with PDF files and not just CAD drawings, I do with that the live annotated elevation drawings were more like line drawings instead of like a flat rendering. I still draw 2d line elevations because I think that they are easier and quicker to customize and look better on my construction document set than the rendered views. But that is personal preference of time management on my part.

 

You can show them as Visible line instead of shaded. I was not real impressed with the annotated view at first but after some playing around with the setting I am getting to like them, not having to change elevations every time a window change happens is great. Only thing I am running into is they look pix elated when I print them it seem



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Posted 29 August 2019 - 05:07 PM

Yes, there is something different - they are much more pixelated in 2020 than they were in 2018  in both prints and PDF ... I've complained and tech support have been able to reproduce the issue, and forwarded it to Development. Now it's just a waiting game until they do something about it. At the moment I'm saving at 600 dpi, but some of my plans are not emailable at 600 dpi, because of the overall size.


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#10 Dennis Hilborn

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Posted 30 August 2019 - 08:54 AM

I have not noticed the pixelated problem yet.



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Posted 30 August 2019 - 08:55 AM

"Four Buttons to press"???

 

Why not just a start button and the program will automatically input the latest building codes, structural engineering, construction costs and cost saving ideas, customer selections, options and fantasies, latest fads and trends, along with a dispute resolution module to allow for the husband's input into the perfect project?

And directly deposit the check into your account.


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Posted 30 August 2019 - 12:11 PM

Soon none of us will have to do a thing, but set a price and sell the idea itself...

 

https://architizer.c...plan-generator/


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#13 Dennis Hilborn

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Posted 30 August 2019 - 04:41 PM

My wife is/was a writer and there have been over the years many attempts to create automated fiction programs.  Nothing worth mentioning that I've seen.



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Posted 31 August 2019 - 05:07 AM

I just want a program that will tell me how to put five bedrooms, three full baths, formal dinning room, game room, office and media room in 2800 sqft!



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Posted 31 August 2019 - 09:06 AM

I just want a program that will tell me how to put five bedrooms, three full baths, formal dinning room, game room, office and media room in 2800 sqft!

 

I do that all the time but you can't count the second floor.



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Posted 31 August 2019 - 09:25 AM

I just want a program that will tell me how to put five bedrooms, three full baths, formal dinning room, game room, office and media room in 2800 sqft!

I want a program that can do all that in under 2000 sq ft.   :D



#17 Mark Petri

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Posted 31 August 2019 - 10:37 AM

And, for $75/sqft please!


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Posted 06 September 2019 - 02:52 PM

I just want a program that will tell me how to put five bedrooms, three full baths, formal dinning room, game room, office and media room in 2800 sqft!

You can! "See, I drew it out just like this and it all fits!!" Then you attempt to draw it as they did and the bedrooms would end up being like 8x8 with a 1-6 door, a 6' soaker tub is drawn at approximately 2', etc.. but I'm preaching to the choir. 


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#19 Dennis Hilborn

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Posted 06 September 2019 - 07:55 PM

You can! "See, I drew it out just like this and it all fits!!" Then you attempt to draw it as they did and the bedrooms would end up being like 8x8 with a 1-6 door, a 6' soaker tub is drawn at approximately 2', etc.. but I'm preaching to the choir. 

Yes, you are but sometimes you have to talk to those who understand.






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