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#1 Nicholas Colantuono

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Posted 29 July 2021 - 01:46 PM

I have created a new wall, named it. It does not show up in my project.

 

Tried to save it as a file, and import into my project...not working.

 

I'm at a loss here,    how can I model with walls I have created?



#2 Mark Petri

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Posted 29 July 2021 - 01:51 PM

If you edited the walls and added walls in the "system" level, you need to reset or import the wall into the "project" or "drawing" level of anything that was created before making the change at the system level.


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#3 Richard Rubinski

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Posted 29 July 2021 - 05:02 PM

You should be able to open project options, next to drawing template (half way down the menu)which I assume is set to default. You should be able to click on the gear click on reset, it should add the wall to your project. I do it with other drawing templates that I set up.

#4 Nicholas Colantuono

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Posted 30 July 2021 - 10:24 AM

I am able to see the to the wall I created in system options in  the export column.

 

I exported to a file and then load it into the import column.

 

I click ok,  it does not show up as a wall option.

 

Am I doing something wrong?



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Posted 30 July 2021 - 06:31 PM

Not sure - sounds like you are importing differently (maybe just the way your post reads to me). If you are in the project or drawing options and click on the define walls, then choose import, then go to the system wall definitions and find the walls you want to import, highlight those and click import it should work. If you want to reset the whole drawing or project level wall definition library, just click on wall definition while in either of those settings and up near the top right side it will have a button to reset to system. If you do that any walls you customized in the project or drawing level you are messing with may be lost. So, be cautious. I sometimes edit walls within a project, but most often will do it at the system level, then reset for the project level.


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#6 James Holley

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 10:45 AM

If you edited the walls and added walls in the "system" level, you need to reset or import the wall into the "project" or "drawing" level of anything that was created before making the change at the system level.

Exactly, I have found often it is easiest to save a "wall def" and then load it, the import export, depending where I am, project level settings, drawing level settings, etc. I get confused every time which way they go.

 

You should be able to open project options, next to drawing template (half way down the menu)which I assume is set to default. You should be able to click on the gear click on reset, it should add the wall to your project. I do it with other drawing templates that I set up.

This isn't the case. The "project options gear" only allows certain functions and mainly just configurations "new, delete, Add to System, Reset" so if you created a wall in a "drawing, .spd file AND the "drawing options" are set to the proper "use project drawing template" and not custom, then you should be able to add the new wall to the "system" in project options by hitting "add to system. At that point it SHOULD be a system wall def.

If you created the new wall in the "system level", then you would need to go to the project you want to use it in, Make SURE the drawing options are set to "use project template" and yes, should be default. From there hit "edit project template. Click the gear icon and hit the button to "add to system". Any wall created in the "project is now in the system.

 

I create and have for ever, many truly custom wall defs. Most often, I do this within a drawing project to fit the needs of that design. Since it is in the drawing and I want it in the system, I will open project options, wall defs, import/export, and then I will "export to file".

You can load this file in your "systems wall defs" they'll be there for next use. As well be available for all new drawings from then on.

Your best bet is the reset, or just import from the drawing, and you have to make sure you have the "drawing tick checked" on this menu, as it is "the drawing" that has the wall. I just then click "import" you should get a message not all walls were imported due to having the same name, but your wall should now be in "both" columns.

If this helped, let me know, if it made a little sense and you still need a bit more clarification, I can always do a slide show.


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Posted 31 July 2021 - 11:41 AM

I would do the same as James. Export the relevant wall as a file, and then import that file into the relevant drawing.

 

There have been instances in the past where because of changes in the walls menu ... especially where you use save as to create a new wall, that resetting the walls CHANGES ALL the walls in the project to a different wall.

 

It seemed that the walls may have had numbers ... for example if you saved the 5th wall as a new wall, then the new wall became wall 6, as it was added into the wall stack. ANY walls in the drawing then incremented their number by one and walls 6 to 20 (or whatever the end was) became walls 7 to 21, BUT the drawing now used walls 6 to 20 so every wall after the new one was changed in the drawing..

 

Not sure if it's still the case, but I've learned to be cautious when using the RESET for anything.


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Posted 31 July 2021 - 11:48 AM

I just went into System Options and created a New Wall (Dw/2x4/Dw/slab/Test), then went into a test drawing that didn't have that wall. I went into Drawing Option clicked on the gear in the Default Template and clicked on reset. Then I went to the Drawing Add Wall and the New Wall was in the wall list. That way you don't have to do all of the import, export. You can do it in reverse if you created a new wall in the drawing and wanted to add it to your System Wall, just click on "Add to System"

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 12:00 PM

Try it. Open a new drawing then go to system options edit walls, highlight one of your walls and click on save as give it a new name. In your drawing go to drawing options edit drawing options which brings up the project options click on the gear and click on reset. Now you have it in your drawing that you already have open.

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Posted 02 August 2021 - 04:00 PM

I assumed Salvatore is a new user. Using "Add to System" would be a good way for him or any other new user to refine there Default settings. As you make changes to your drawing, add walls, change Dimension Options, Character changes, Pen settings, etc. This way you can make changes on the fly and Add to System for the Default configuration, then he would have those changes for a New Project.  If he didn't want to make the changes to his Default settings then he needs to click on "ADD" and give it a new name for a different Drawing Template, as some clients like there drawings to be Dimensioned a different way.

 

James, if I did I didn't mean to step on your toes.

 

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Posted 09 August 2021 - 07:54 AM

I assumed Salvatore is a new user. Using "Add to System" would be a good way for him or any other new user to refine there Default settings. As you make changes to your drawing, add walls, change Dimension Options, Character changes, Pen settings, etc. This way you can make changes on the fly and Add to System for the Default configuration, then he would have those changes for a New Project.  If he didn't want to make the changes to his Default settings then he needs to click on "ADD" and give it a new name for a different Drawing Template, as some clients like there drawings to be Dimensioned a different way.

 

James, if I did I didn't mean to step on your toes.

 

Rick

Rick, no offense, you didn't step on me at all, the more answers, the more options since there at least 3 to 4 ways to go about it. In fact, even though I've used this program since 1991 or so, I STILL get confused on the import/export rules based on where you chose to do so, there are a couple paths to just that. I don't know I even mentioned "add to system"

 

I would do the same as James. Export the relevant wall as a file, and then import that file into the relevant drawing.

 

There have been instances in the past where because of changes in the walls menu ... especially where you use save as to create a new wall, that resetting the walls CHANGES ALL the walls in the project to a different wall.

 

It seemed that the walls may have had numbers ... for example if you saved the 5th wall as a new wall, then the new wall became wall 6, as it was added into the wall stack. ANY walls in the drawing then incremented their number by one and walls 6 to 20 (or whatever the end was) became walls 7 to 21, BUT the drawing now used walls 6 to 20 so every wall after the new one was changed in the drawing..

 

Not sure if it's still the case, but I've learned to be cautious when using the RESET for anything.

I remember these old days where it was "list order specific", THANKFULLY they did away with that. I do notice that "usually" after I have created a wall in a drawing, saved it to 'system" the new wall/walls show up at the bottom of the list.

I have a wall def list that has been fully created by me (started with the basics) and I bet I add a new wall if not a couple on almost every drawing I do.

In fact, I was finally able to trick the system into letting me make a wall that has masonry "ONLY" to the top of floor line, more realistic water table. I have brick to sill, stone to sill, both with a siding type above.

It helps produce this more historical look

 

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