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#1 Ben Ginther

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Posted 21 August 2015 - 03:46 PM

Hi,

How do you draw a vaulted gable? I have used two walls and rake the bottom of both, but surely there is a better way. It would also work to edit an arch if we could make an arch like that. What are your ideas?

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#2 randolph cohn

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Posted 21 August 2015 - 06:05 PM

ben

 

pardon my ignorance

 

could you be a little more specific >

 

what exactly is a "vaulted gable"


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Posted 21 August 2015 - 06:30 PM

Randy,

 

He's looking to do a covered deck/patio with a scissor truss.  There's no way that I know to make the gable follow the ceiling line.  I gave up trying to do them long ago



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 07:13 AM

Thanks,

  Trusses will follow the ceiling, but gables will not. Does anyone know how to make an arch as a triangle?

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Posted 22 August 2015 - 06:50 PM

if this is what your want.

 

draw the arch with 3 lines,

2 diagonals and one horizontal.

go into system library / elev opening / arch

and do a "one step" and draw a box around the

arch drawn from lines.

give it a  name.

than go to OPENINGS library / arch

and make it an arch opening.

 

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#6 Sam Morgan

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Posted 22 August 2015 - 07:40 PM

http://nycoconstruct...overed-Deck.jpg

 

I assume this is what the original question was about.  I've not ever been able to figure out a way to do this in softplan and show in 3D.  I either draw it with lines on the elevations or do a wall out on the end with an arch.   It would be nice if the gable end would follow the ceiling.



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 08:10 PM

Randy,

 

   What happens when you edit and change it to twice that size?

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Posted 22 August 2015 - 09:50 PM

Got it!    Thanks.

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 01:05 PM

ben,

did you want an arch (no glazing)

or

a window (with glazing)

 

a quick and easy way is to use >

 

window / specialty / trapezoid

 

NOTE: the trapezoid windows

has an "auto top" that slopes to the

pitch of the roff that it's "DIRECTLY" under as noted in illustration

 

 

note: you can have glazing in this trapezoid window or no glazing.

 

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#10 Sam Morgan

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 02:20 PM

Randy...you always think outside the box!!!   That would actually be an easy way to do that...put in a trapezoid...fit to ceiling...then turn the glass off so all you are left with is opening and trim if wanted...How come I never think of these kinds of things???  :)



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Posted 23 August 2015 - 03:12 PM

sam,

 

could it be you haven't really returned from Woodstock ?

of course i'm kidding sam,  you come up with lots of great tips.

 

and you all should look into creating an "auto slope top" / "trapezoid" top

on openings /  doors and windows.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 01:46 PM

I know this is an old thread but I'm hoping Randy or someone else can help me out.  I've used Randys method with the trap window and vaulted gable end and it works famously...except it leaves a thin strip at the bottom that I can't seem to get rid of, ideas anyone?

 

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#13 Sam Morgan

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 02:50 PM

Check to make sure it doesn't have a "sill" or exterior trim



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 03:15 PM

Make the "window" 1/8" deeper than the wall ...


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#15 Anthony Wielemaker

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:05 PM

Thanks Keith.



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 09:42 AM

Where do I turn off the "Glazing" for the trapezoid window?


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Posted 07 July 2021 - 09:51 AM

same as other windows.

 

 

only caveat i supose is if you created the opening using the line method, e.g. elevation opening then opening and used lines to create your grills then you'll be unable to remove w/o creating another elevation opening w/o those grid lines. (i use this method for super strange custom units)

 

 

i seen a randy post at the beginning of this....he is missed!  RIP

 

 

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