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#1 Sam Morgan

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 07:02 AM

Anyone else having issues with many of the commands in the tools menu?  After performing a trim, extend, etc...many times you have to right click multiple times to release the command and move on to something else.  Definitely different compared to previous versions and a MAJOR slowdown to my productivity


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#2 Mark Petri

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 07:48 AM

I thought it was me or my settings. I have to click on some tools several times to get them to work, then click several times to get to the next thing.


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#3 Sam Morgan

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 08:12 AM

Mark....exactly!!!  Its incredibly annoying.  I'd rather have basic commands that work properly than expanded libraries of throw rugs that I will never use!


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#4 Steve Haarmann

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 10:52 AM

This is new behaviour in 2022 for trim, filet, extend etc.

Rather than ending after the operation it assumes that you want to stay in that command.

Just hit Esc or another keyboard operation command and it will disconnect.



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Posted 28 September 2021 - 11:04 AM

I have gotten into the habit of hitting escape a lot. But, I do find it does not always select the command I've hovered over and clicked on and I keep having to go back and make sure it highlights after trying to draw something.


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Posted 28 September 2021 - 12:47 PM

its terrible I know.  they shouldn't change the behavior of the super fast basic cad commands.  not sure their thinking.

 

welcome to 2022 Sam.

 

wait till you start using the extension command on small objects!!!


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#7 Sam Morgan

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 01:48 PM

I waited months to upgrade thinking patches would have taken care of issues by now but it appears I was wrong.  Regretting the decision to upgrade when I did.  The only reason I did was for the corner face sliding door that a current client wants.  2020 still had some bugs that were never fixed, but I'd take those now over some of the stuff going on with 2022



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Posted 28 September 2021 - 03:20 PM

Sam,

 

It is way better than it was in the beginning. I still am glad I switched over.


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Posted 29 September 2021 - 08:02 AM

I waited months to upgrade thinking patches would have taken care of issues by now but it appears I was wrong.  Regretting the decision to upgrade when I did.  The only reason I did was for the corner face sliding door that a current client wants.  2020 still had some bugs that were never fixed, but I'd take those now over some of the stuff going on with 2022

 

Speaking of management NOT addressing ticket suggestions.  Here's a problem i asked about more then once back in V2020:  Raised short walls still NOT showing drywall on the below face.  I'm still using a bandade fix of a special wall type with Drywall below added manually in my definition.

 

Should be a simple fix:  'wall gets shorter.....drywall gets added'

 

I fear difficult tickets being submitted and forwarded on to programming are being forgotten.

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 08:12 AM

Mark....exactly!!!  Its incredibly annoying.  I'd rather have basic commands that work properly than expanded libraries of throw rugs that I will never use!

 

Sam,  case in point here.  The library of Midland overhead doors just added that i'll never use don't work properly....the top of the door is above the top of the opening on ALL of them.  Basically adding them was a waste to the library of excessive stuff.

 

Can someone please verify this.....hopefully I'm wrong!

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#11 Sam Morgan

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 08:28 AM

Nope...you're not wrong.  Just tried that exact door and I get the same results as you.  



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Posted 29 September 2021 - 09:34 AM

It does baffle me at what gets added without regard for the quality or use to the designer. Maybe it is a regional thing, but many of those library items are silly. And, the fact that nothing in the libraries where panels/borders/trim matter are parametric. They stretch oddly in most cases. But, there are still many perks to the latest version over the previous. Just wish they'd get rid of the useless fluff and add the things that matter and would boost them ahead of the competition.


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#13 Joseph Smith

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 09:38 AM

Think I speak for many, we're slammed with drawings and can't afford time spent tweaking symbols, openings or finding crazy chairs and rugs or submitting tickets for problems all day long.

 

I'd gladly forgo a bi-yearly update to have the program totally cleaned up and cleaned out.


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Posted 29 September 2021 - 04:19 PM

Me too, I thought my mouse was too old, things seem to not be clicking open easy, But seems like i have it doing that with other programs,    maybe Microsoft update



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Posted 30 September 2021 - 08:07 PM

Think I speak for many, we're slammed with drawings and can't afford time spent tweaking symbols, openings or finding crazy chairs and rugs or submitting tickets for problems all day long.

I'd gladly forgo a bi-yearly update to have the program totally cleaned up and cleaned out.


This post times a million. Softplan please take note.

Based on your post Sam, I’m still going to wait to upgrade. I have over 30 I’m doing at one time. No time for tickets and stupid nonsense stuff.

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Posted 06 October 2021 - 05:25 AM

  Misery loves company in this case as I thought the problems with "clicking" on a function over and over then clearing the function and then finally coming back to use the function that you wanted to use in the first place was with me or my machine.  

 

  I am biased, and not a graphics designer (not that is anything wrong with that) so a clear out of the candle sticks and lamp shades might not be bad in my mind.  Too much fancy stuff and not enough attention to the bones.  

 

  The extension command on small objects as Joe mentioned is enough to make you go berserk.  How do you send in a ticket on that?



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Posted 07 October 2021 - 01:43 PM

New update today, no fix.  Good thing its not a problem.


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 05:12 PM

As far as I can tell whatever menu your in Just press the S key will take you back to select mode. current command will finish.



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Posted 11 October 2021 - 09:27 PM

Anyone else having issues with many of the commands in the tools menu?  After performing a trim, extend, etc...many times you have to right click multiple times to release the command and move on to something else.  Definitely different compared to previous versions and a MAJOR slowdown to my productivity

As far as I can tell whatever menu your in Just press the S key will take you back to select mode.Current command will finish.
 



#20 Sam Morgan

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 08:50 AM

As far as I can tell whatever menu your in Just press the S key will take you back to select mode.Current command will finish.
 

Why should we HAVE to do this?  This is new behavior that I've never seen in softplan in over 15 years of use.  






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