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#1 Tom Rogers

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 12:55 PM

I am trying to create a new wall that has siding on both the exterior and interior side.  This for a covered porch.  However when I try to take a normal 2x4 exterior wall and modify the drywall for sheathing and siding the siding material faces the "outside" of the wall definition2015-11-25.png

 

How can I get the siding to face the inside of the wall definition? 


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#2 Yvon Gonthier

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 01:12 PM

I think its not something Softplan was ready for. In 3D, it doesn't seem to impact to much. In cross-section, you'll have to edit to change direction.



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Posted 25 November 2015 - 01:19 PM

I think its not something Softplan was ready for. In 3D, it doesn't seem to impact to much. In cross-section, you'll have to edit to change direction.

Correction; wasn't ready for



#4 Keith Almond

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 01:37 PM

Correction; wasn't ready for

 

I think you were right the first time ...


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#5 Yvon Gonthier

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 02:18 PM

No, I meant that they weren't ready for the fact that it could be necessary to reverse a material when building a wall. Materials such as siding as programmed to face the exterior only but not based on a wall that has two exteriors.

 

Sorry for the confusion :blink:



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Posted 25 November 2015 - 02:34 PM

Without wishing to offend, and understanding that I believe that English isn't your first language, yes ... In the first post you effectively said "it's not something they were ready for" which is correct, in the correction you said "it's not something they wasn't ready for", the double negative implying that - it was something they were ready for ... Never mind, I understood what you meant.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 03:46 PM

My work-around was to create a 2x2 wall with siding, .. change the wall joint tolerance to suit.

 

Works fine for the desired result in 3D, .. but if you are using Softlist,

 

.. your materials for your actual wing wall construction (2x4 or 2x6) will obviously be out of whack.


.. invariably, someone will have a simpler solution.


#8 Keith Almond

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 04:17 PM

As Yvon was saying though ... although the section looks wrong in the wall definition, the plan and the model both show properly.

 

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#9 randolph cohn

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 08:12 PM

you could use one solid material like siding for 3d.

 

you can also make the wall look like any other wall

by using "none" material if you want additional lines.

 

one negative is it won't have all your building materials

in the section but you can draw those in fairly quickly

in DRAW / detail / section detail.

 

also it'll show as one material in softlist.

 

what i'm suggesting is really for 3d work.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 09:14 PM

Yes.  3D I could figure out but I do a material list for my builders as an additions service (well they pay for it) so I have to make things work as close to real life as possible.  Though I could add a none material or something similar and add it a code for it or what I will probably have to do is just add the square footage of the siding to my take off after the fact.  


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#11 Keith Almond

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:03 PM

... I will probably have to do is just add the square footage of the siding to my take off after the fact.  

 

Tom, I think you're missing the point.

 

If you use the definition that you show in your original post, the wall should work fine, both in the drawing and in Softlist. Don't worry about how it shows in the definition menu.

 

Don't forget, the texture itself doesn't have a front and back, siding texture is just a picture ... the front and back are identical. So it really doesn't matter which way round it is!


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 09:36 PM

You are right Keith.  What I was saying was I wanted it to work on the material list; which it will.  I already said I could and Randy confirmed that it can be done in 3D a bunch of ways.  I just needed to stop and think about that for a second.  And probably have someone hit up side the head a bit.  Thanks :P . I was stuck on looking at it in the definition screen


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