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#1 James Quesenberry

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 04:16 PM

Can someone pass along any suggestions, links or tutorials on how to create a new door or new door elevation. Being new is just leaving me lost on the creation of new objects.

 

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#2 Keith Almond

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 07:16 PM

See this thread .... This was specifically for garage doors, but can easily be adapted to Entrance doors or Windows. The principles are exactly the same.

 

If you get stuck, I'll help out any way I can.


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#3 James Quesenberry

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 06:17 PM

Any suggestions on how to create a entry door with 2 sidelites symbol for 2d and 3d? I understand how to create a single door and a garage door but I do not understand how you put multiple units together.

 

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#4 Keith Almond

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 07:37 PM

Jerry,

 

The easiest way is just to put multiple units next to each other on plan ... So a sidelight then a door and then a sidelight. They will snap together as they get close. Just move them so they exactly touch. The go to EDIT > UNIT OPENINGS, and click on the opening. You will be asked to name the opening (Choose a directory to suit), and Softplan will add that opening into your system library, so that you can use it again and again. It will automatically create the 2D for the elevations and the 3D for the model. All the trims etc. now treat this multiple opening as a single entity.

 

You can also add a transom the same way, or just click on transom in the edit menu, and add a generic transom.

 

You can then edit the symbol in the library and customise the transoms or the sidelights as necessary, ellipse, round top etc. to make new openings.

 

You can try it with the NAPLES doors and sidelights in this post if you want to be adventurous ...


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#5 James Quesenberry

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:10 PM

Hello All,

 

1) When creating a new sidelight from scratch does it have to inputted as a Window in System Library - Opening for it to connect together with an entry door in plan or can you enter it as a Door and still have it work out correctly? What are the differences in Window and Door during this process?

 

2) Can someone please explain the difference between the sill options under the System Library - Opening - Edit Individual Component - Elevation tab and the Edit Entire Opening - Display tab? 

 

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Jerry



#6 Keith Almond

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 08:37 PM

Jerry, have a look in the Softplan help files. These are very good, and will probably explain better than I can.

 

No matter what you use, all openings will snap together unless you CHECK "Exclude from Unit Openings" under the HEADER tab in the EDIT window.


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#7 James Quesenberry

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 09:58 PM

I tried to do that before posting but I could not find anything related to Edit Entire Opening. Thanks though!

 

On another topic is it possible to edit the textures on openings under the system library without having to delete the model and recreating from scratch?



#8 Keith Almond

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 11:57 AM

...When creating a new sidelight from scratch does it have to inputted as a Window in System Library - Opening for it to connect together with an entry door in plan or can you enter it as a Door and still have it work out correctly? What are the differences in Window and Door during this process?...

 

I would always create a sidelight as a window, but that may just be habit.

 

It doesn't matter whether it's a window or a door, they will automatically snap together when the get too close.

 

As far as I am aware, the only real difference is the way the component opens.

 

... Can someone please explain the difference between the sill options under the System Library - Opening - Edit Individual Component - Elevation tab and the Edit Entire Opening - Display tab? 

 

As far as I know it's just where it will create the sill. Either under a individual component, or under the entire assembly.

 

On another topic is it possible to edit the textures on openings under the system library without having to delete the model and recreating from scratch?

 

The textures for any component in the 3D should be editable within the 3D model without having to recreate it. However, there is a caveat ... If you are using a model that was saved as a 3DS file, the textures are not editable. I would suggest that all your 3D models are saved as DWG's.

 

This is how Softplans Technical Support explained it to me, when I was having texture issues with a model that I had created wholly in Softplan, but I had saved the 3D model as a 3DS file.
 
"As a 3DS file, the textures have pre-determined mappings which cannot be changed in SoftPlan - that is the nature of the 3DS file format - it controls its own textures and texture mappings.
Two solutions, but you need to recreate the 3d symbol file:
1. Prior to exporting the 3D model to 3DS, make sure all textures are appropriately defined. Then, when importing the 3DS file back into SoftPlan as a Symbol, all textures will automatically be present and set as they initially were.
2. Export the 3D model as a DWG or DXF file.  DWG and DXF contain to internal texture properties, allow you to define the textures, and their mappings, as the symbol in imported, and can me modified after."

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#9 Delane Barrus

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 07:55 PM

I'm having similar challenge in creating a custom front door. I could start with the library entry door I modified (attached "front1.jpg") except I can't figure a way to make the glass in the door wider. I would like to try the Pivot door design (attached) to see how it would look adding sidelights. It would be easy enough to add the door pull from the pivot door with a solid cube shape. I could also start from scratch using simple shapes - but I read in another thread about 'exploding' an item from the library and editing from that point? The problem is that 'exploding' an entry door from the library seems to do nothing for me? It actually seems to be no different in what I can edit after exploding the item (exploded in standard view). What am I doing wrong here?

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:28 PM

I thought I figured this out. Find an entry door that has the components I want (transom and sidelights, like the 68x96 LH Entry - 2 SL - Transom), deselect product code. Got to the 'Add Product Code button' above the preview, name it something new. 
Then navigate to the 'System Options, Library'   I can locate my newly saved model and edit individual components there. Unfortunately I cannot find a way to add the window to the main door unit, so that didn't work out.



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Posted 05 December 2021 - 09:00 PM

Don't know if this might help, using existing doors and sidelites and all to create a unit.

 

https://www.screencast.com/t/Nno4HXta


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#12 Delane Barrus

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Posted 07 December 2021 - 07:32 PM

Thank you Fred, yes - that helped a lot actually! While I could not figure out how to change the window size in a door, I was able to visualize how the dimensions might play out in the design.

Don't know if this might help, using existing doors and sidelites and all to create a unit.

 

https://www.screencast.com/t/Nno4HXta

 

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#13 Keith Almond

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Posted 09 December 2021 - 07:12 PM

Delane,

 

Why don't you just DRAW exactly what you want ...

 

Draw the elevation opening as you want it using a frame and a glass opening ... then create a plan symbol to suit. This thread ... http://softplan.com/...ening-tutorial/ ... is specifically for a garage door, but the door and glazing in a standard door are created in exactly the same manner, Just follow the steps and create whatever you want.


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#14 Chris Proost

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Posted 10 December 2021 - 02:58 PM

Delane - While I've got nothing to add to your problem, I would, however, love to see the rest of this house!! She's a beauty!



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Posted 12 December 2021 - 03:38 PM

Keith, the "thread" in your first post took me to your post in 2015 where you did a great job explaining creating a custom ( in this case, garage) door. I followed your steps to create a custom door. Forgive the pun but this has opened a lots of "doors" for me. 



#16 Keith Almond

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Posted 12 December 2021 - 04:00 PM

Thanks Chris, I hadn't realised that was the thread I linked earlier.


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#17 Keith Almond

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Posted 12 December 2021 - 04:02 PM

Delane,

 

If you read the section in the garage door tutorial (linked above ... twice) about glazing, then you will be able to create any opening in the entrance door you require. If this doesn't work for you, can you explain what the issue is concisely, so that maybe I can prepare another tutorial. What can't you create?
 
To save you going back to the tutorial, this is what the glazing section says:
 
Openings can be added with DETAIL>OPENING SHAPES>DOOR GLAZING
It is probably best if you want grilles to physically draw them if you have multiple windows that require them. The grille function does work on custom designs, but is a little hit and miss as to whether it works as you think it should.
 
This is an important step .... If you used the door glazing above, it will show as glass - otherwise any other shape that has glass, will need the glass added separately. If you want to include glass, it must be drawn in a dotted line. Personally I find it best to draw a dotted polygon (normally in a different colour). I position it where it's needed, and then right click inside the polygon, choose POLYGON and explode it. That's not the only way, but it works for me, so that's what I use - If you don't explode the polygon, it won't show as glass.

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#18 Daniel Jackson

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 07:18 AM

I have tried to create a custom entry door several times.  Each time I do, and I put it in my plan, it shows up as a window in my plan.  The elevations show a door, but there is no "swing" on my plans.  What am I doing wrong?



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Posted 17 May 2022 - 08:40 AM

Check to be sure you didn't add it as a window instead of a door. Once you verify it was created as a door you can look at other possible issues. Check to see if you gave it a swing in the opening library menu by clicking on the door in question, then click edit and go to the individual door. In that menu look to see if it has an "N", "L", or "R" for the swing. You can change it there, or change it in the drawing when you edit the offending door. Then check to see if the swing is set to "0" or not.

 

Lots of possible issues you may have unknowingly caused. Some screen shots of the various tabs in the edit menu for the door in the System Library and in the drawing may reveal to us what the issue is without so much guessing.


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