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[James Quesenberry]

Is there a way to modify the stair so that a portion of it below the wall extends out to the edge of the wall as shown?

 

Thank you,

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[Yvon Gonthier]

You have to draw that stair section in 2 parts. When you bring them close to one another, they will join together.

[Martin Livingston]

^{Remember that when they "cleanup" they will act as a unit when you edit or adjust them. If you explode the assembly once you can edit each section of stair.}

[Keith Almond]

^{Remember that when they "cleanup" they will act as a unit when you edit or adjust them. If you explode the assembly once you can edit each section of stair.}

 

You don't have to explode them Martin, you can EDIT, and click on the STRAIGHT tab. You portion shown is the one your cursor was over when you edit them.

[James Quesenberry]

I'm feeling a bit stupid here because I am not following either of you. I originally drew the stairs a a landing and (2) runs of stairs. When I do what Yvon suggests they come together but they do not join as shown in picture. When I explode the lower stair all i get are lines. I apologize for not being able to follow better.

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[Yvon Gonthier]

The stairs are not one over the other but 2 different sections for the 2 widths. Then you join them together.

Hope the sketch shows better.

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[Keith Almond]

As Yvon said ... They should end up looking like this.

If you edit the whole stair, it looks like this.

If you edit the straight sections you get this

and this

[James Quesenberry]

Thank you for the image Yvon. I understand now what you were talking about.

 

I guess a sub-question to this is, is it possible to create a tread that is notched on the side to allow the wall to encroach on the tread for only a portion of that tread as I have shown in the last picture that I sent? Or does the wall have to go to the backside of the next riser? If you can't create the notched tread for the wall, is there a way to mask the lines that run thru the wall?

 

Also, Is there no way to change the riser thickness? Everything in our area is 1x material and SP only shows a 1/2" riser thickness.

[Keith Owens]

I don't believe you can create a tread that is notched, but a trick to hiding the lines without exploding the stair is to draw a solid white box to cover the lines in the wall area. However if you export as a PDF file, it will show the box black. You could uncheck "use item(s) color" in your layer setup, and set the box on another layer that uses the items color, export the pdf with "use screen colors" checked...but after all that you might as well have just exploded the stair section into lines. If it is more important to leave the stair intact at least this gives you another option.

[Yvon Gonthier]

As Keith mentioned, I don't think you can draw a notched stair. I tried drawing it in 3 pieces with a small step for the notched step but as I taught, it wont attach and blend with the stairs.

I draw my walls with a fill (I find it stands out more from all line work)so this wouldn't a problem with the line thru the wall although for framing purposes and stair manufacturer preferences, I always line up the wall with the riser or nosing.

I don't think you can control the riser thickness, at least not up to 2014.

[Anthony Wielemaker]

One trick I've used to mask lines is to create a note with just spaces as text then highlight the 'Outline Masked' option and set Outline to 'box' in the text dialogue box and it will mask out any lines in behind the spaces.  It can be a little tricky and you have to watch out that you don't lose the text but you can change the length of the box with the number of spaces and the height with the text size.  I think the quicker option would be to copy the stair to a hidden layer and explode the one you want on the plan and trim the lines.

 

[Yvon Gonthier]

The only problem that I have found about 'Outline Masked' for notes or dimensions is that if you use Review, they will show up as a black box.

[Anthony Wielemaker]

Don't remember that little glitch, maybe that's why I haven't used it for a while ha ha.