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[Chris Robinson]

This may be obvious but for some reason, the "cover floor" option when I edit the exterior walls, is grey and I can not use it.

I have attached a few screen shots. Am I missing something?

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[Fred Dickson]

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[Steve and Carla Farnam]

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[Mark Petri]

It almost looks like your floor system could also be off just a bit (check if the lollipops are more solid filled - thus referencing the exterior walls nearby, or hollow). Or, in the case of the main floor, is your mudsill part of the floor system or part of the foundation wall below? Also, with stepped walls or partial walls, the lollipop of the floor system vs the length of the wall can sometimes mess up whether siding covers the floor system or not. So, sometimes it is best to break up walls into segments when you run into that.

 

And, certainly the offset of the wall needs to match the height of the floor system.

[Henry Buckner]

This option has also been greyed out for me when the bottom of the 2nd floor (for whatever weird reason) is not flat. If the bottom of the wall is set as raked the option isn't available.

I don't know why it happens, but at least once I fixed it by unchecking "rake wall" on the bottom.

[Fred Russell]

You can also in the 3d mode use "adjust' and adjust the wall down over the floor system.   I've several times have done a clean and the option to cover floor lights up to be used.

[Chris Robinson]

Thanks for all the advice but nothing seems to be working.

Fred, it doesn't change when I add the floor joists.

Mark, I tried taking the sill plate off, I checked that the walls line up ( there were a few that did not but still didn't fix when I changed them) My floor system is 11 7/8" joists and 5/8" subfloor so 1'0.5" ( was 1'2" with sill plate that I took off). 

I broke the whole plan up. Removed the basement and upper floor from the model. I thought it might be my reference point which I had on a hidden wall away from the floor plan. I changed it to a common wall on the plan and made sure they lined up.

The funny thing is, the section of the wall that is cantilevered works. 

This is taking too much time. I know I can adjust the walls on the 3d to cover but I shouldn't need to do that. 

It may be time to submit a ticket. (but that feels like defeat  ) 

[Philip Frank]

Try breaking the wall that is not covering the floor into 2 pieces and then adjusting the break to occur at the stair landing. 

[Joseph Smith]

Philip is on to something,  move the floor lollypop to the bedroom area instead of your stairwall which i'm guessing is a tall wall or has a different offset.

 

 

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[Mark Petri]

I ran into much the same thing on a project for a remodel on an old log cabin, and found using the bottom of the wall offsets and setting it to a negative number worked great in the case of a log wall so it covers the edge of the floor system. Maybe for looks you can try that and just move on for now. I think there are some quirks with the way new walls work with the ability to split and step them that sometimes interferes with the cover floor feature.

[Chris Robinson]

Thanks again for all of the advice. I tried all of them but nothing seemed to help.I was about to move on like you suggested Mark. Your suggestion would give me the end result but it still bugged me that something wasn't right. I did put in a ticket and I have attached the response.

This did kind of fix things, even though the cover floor was still grey'd out on some wall but still covered the floor. I think the key was to untick the transition box in the definition. I have no idea why that was solution to the issue but enough time wasted.

 

I do have what I think is a simple question. I have a small skirt roof that is not showing a fascia and I don't know why. Is there a simple solution to this? 

 

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[Keith Almond]

It needs to be a gable rather than an intersect to show a fascia. However, quite often just changing from intersect to gable doesn't seem to fix it. Try changing it from intersect to hip and then from hip to gable. I've found that works sometimes.

[Chris Robinson]

Got it. Thanks Keith.

[Joseph Smith]

my yellow circles are gable style lollypops associated with phantom walls. (hidden from 3d and hidden so not shown on my sheets), the innter R that i've not identified would be an intersect vertical plane not associated with any wall

 

(get used to this approach if you have lots of little gable return ends.)

 

 

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[Joseph Smith]

here is another more common and larger.

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[Jason Bishop]

Don’t know if you have tried this, but erase your reference point on both drawings and find a new location to put the reference point on each drawing.
This has worked for me in the past.

[Chris Robinson]

Hi Joseph, 

I am sorry but I really don't follow what explaining: 

 

Posted 08 October 2021 - 09:21 PM

my yellow circles are gable style lollypops associated with phantom walls. (hidden from 3d and hidden so not shown on my sheets), the innter R that i've not identified would be an intersect vertical plane not associated with any wall

(get used to this approach if you have lots of little gable return ends.)

 

I understand about hidden walls not shown on the 3D but I don't see how it works in your example. I do need to understand this because this will come up quite often in my designs. Until now I have been creating a separate small roof on the main floor but it is clunking and seems to take a lot of time for what it is. 

 

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[Chris Robinson]

I am also not sure if I can make 6" or 12" wide? Your method appears to allow for any size.

[Keith Almond]

Rather than add it as a separate roof, use insert polygon edges to extend that portion of the roof and edge edit as necessary.

[Steven Wohlgemuth]

Here is something i got from support last year. Like Keith is saying.

 

We would need a gable edge in the small step. You can use Tools>Insert Polygon Edge to add more edges, then set the right edge to a gable. Use Move?>Adjust Item to move that edge to the wall. Set the new intersect edge to be vertical and the edge over the main roof to have an Auto Pitch again. Steps in attached image.

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